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Tarkin · Jul 26, 2006, 12:44 AM // 00:44

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Originally Posted by Shadow-Hunter

Ur trying to stop farming by nerfing the Warmo + 55 monk? Becouse its impossible to stop farming by nerfing skills and builds.

Look at it: Go the the Farming section, and look at the builds: Can you nerf en all so they cant farm without hurting the balanced PvE + PvP game ALOT?

Also, by doing that you will make Mending the Worst skill in game, with no use at all for anything. And a Warrior using mending dont even need nerfing.. they allmost need a buff >_>

~Shadow

Agree
But the hate in 55 and warmo... is about the industrial farm... not about rangers or ele farming a bit...

Sir Mad · Jul 26, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Actually you can "industrially" farm with a ranger. I'm not a farmer (I mean.. I don't spend 90% of my time soloing stuff) but when I do farm, it's generally with my ranger...

The OP seems to forget that healing breathe is something used by healers too... The point of using healing breathe with a healer is to keep a decent amount of hp when the target is suffering low constant damage. No point carrying it if it ends when the target has full hp: any healing spell would be better than this regen enchant then.

My 2 cents to the OP: you really shouldn't have replaced mending in your skillbar by Conjure Flames - that's not good on guru...

anonymous · Jul 26, 2006, 01:02 AM // 01:02

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Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

plz remind me why paladins need nerfing.

so people stop playing them. if there were no more mending wammo noobs i would be happy.

tomcruisejr · Jul 26, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04

Make mending an elite skill so warriors will think its a waste of elite.

Malice Black · Jul 26, 2006, 01:22 AM // 01:22

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Originally Posted by anonymous

so people stop playing them. if there were no more mending wammo noobs i would be happy.

everyone has to learn and the "mending wammo" is the easiest and best choice for a new player

granted once they hit lvl20 and have some exp they should dump the lame build but if there was no lame players/builds you lot would have nothing to bitch about.

here's a shocking idea..help! meet a bad player...give them advice!! i know that may shock some of you but not all ppl are dumb and a few will take the advice in and might even improve thier playing ability.

instead of making another lame thread try thinking of ways of helping the new players..write a guide offer help ect

moral of the story is..deal with it, there will always be lame players and lame builds to go along with them

Sir Mad · Jul 26, 2006, 01:33 AM // 01:33

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here's a shocking idea..help! meet a bad player...give them advice!! i know that may shock some of you but not all ppl are dumb and a few will take the advice in and might even improve thier playing ability.

That's sooo true, and it can be applied under soo many circumstances...

I mean: flame someone in RA because he has rebirth instead of a rez sig, call him noob, and he won't listen to you. Explain him in a few words rez sigs are more efficient there, and he will thank you for the advice and change the skill.

Now to the one who posted mending should be nerfed to prevent players from using a mending "noobish" build: remember one thing, young padawan: noobiness can't be nerfed...

And again, being a newb are 2 different things.

Arkantos · Jul 26, 2006, 01:35 AM // 01:35

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

Make mending an elite skill so warriors will think its a waste of elite.

1) Ruins the skill
2) Watchful Spirit

GUE Tech · Jul 26, 2006, 01:37 AM // 01:37

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Originally Posted by Tarkin

Well, 55 and paladins donr hurt me!

But if someone want to nerf the 55 just do it...

Protective Spirit For 5...19 seconds, target ally cannot lose more than 10% max Health 50...20 due to damage from a single attack or Spell.

Over kids... skill still working... for pvp and normal pve... but ataxes will take a better fed this night...

You beat me here, but I did this awhile ago in this thread... http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=114070

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Originally Posted by GUE Tech

Protective Spirit...

Shadow-Hunter · Jul 26, 2006, 02:11 AM // 02:11

Making Prot spirit only reduce 20% dmg will RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO it up for every PvP monk who use it. 500 hp /5 = 100.. Will only help vs dmg thats over 100 x.x. Skill = very bad. Also a monk would never use a whole 15 energy to reduce lets say only dmg thats over 100!! >_>

~Shadow

vinegrower · Jul 26, 2006, 03:47 AM // 03:47

you people just don't get it. You can change the skills again and again, but new builds will be developed. 55 is just the most popular at the moment because it has worked for a long time. Get rid of it and they will just move on to another build. Then the only thing that has happend is we made a few skills less usefull to those who use them properly.

Changing skills is not the way to stop farmers.

On a related note, changing mending will not stop stupid players.

DOCB22 · Jul 26, 2006, 03:56 AM // 03:56

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Originally Posted by Praetor

I'm not putting this into the petition forum cause I know 80% of the people would flame me on the spot.

2 skill changes:
Healing Breeze- 5 energy, 3/4 cast, 2 cd
For 10 sec, +3-10 regen (0-15 attribute)
HB ends when target ally has full health.

Mending- 5 energy, 1 upkeep, 1 cast, 0 cd
+2-5 regen (0-15)
Mending ends when target ally has full health.

First off, w/mo's would have to recast HB & mending nonstop, thus having no energy to do so later. And, 55 builds would lose those enchantments practically instantly after casting, even while being hit. If such a skill change happened, whammos would whine at a.net, and then possibly realize far better profession combos. As for farming 55ers, only the spirit bond monk would be left as a invinci-monk build. Although HB & mending as a skill take a major hit, they're more cost efficient when used right.

Praetor has Aspect of Stupidity on him!

Mister O · Jul 26, 2006, 04:12 AM // 04:12

hey listen to me Anet, Im a wammo using mending and HB and mesmer pwns me in RA/TA/HA or in PVE wutever, so nerf all domination and illusion skills plzzz

-.-"

Ira Blinks · Jul 26, 2006, 04:49 AM // 04:49

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Originally Posted by vinegrower

So how does this effect wammos?

it doesn't.

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Also, what about the solo Elementalist builds?

which is what? Kryta titans and ettins? Trolls? Otherwise you still using 55 build with prot spirit and breeze, so I fail to see the difference.

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And what is a "balanced group?" Would a group of 4 or 6 of the same profession count as a balanced group?

sure, why not...

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Couldn't a group of (insert any solo build) go into an area together, split off and farm basically solo?

this is what makes balanced group different - it has specific distinct roles for each member, while 8 people with solo build is just 8 solo groups with reduced profit...

Bottom line is that things should not be soloable regardless of how much sense changes proposed by OP make. It ruins game economy. It defies the meaning of MM in MMORPG.

bam23 · Jul 26, 2006, 05:31 AM // 05:31

That would make Mending a longer cast, less effective HB that slows down your energy regen.

Hockster · Jul 26, 2006, 05:34 AM // 05:34

Gotta love the people that make a thread then never bother to post in it again. Flamebait?

TadaceAce · Jul 26, 2006, 06:05 AM // 06:05

Ahahaha its so funny mending is soooooo bad. Yet its is quite possibly, the single most widely used skill in pve (prophecies anyway, prophecies seems to be more newb in this case.) I mean I was in a group trying to cap a skill the other day, I had 4 wammos in my group (3 of them using mending). An ele using mending, a necro using mending, and a monk using mending. That is count um, 6 people using mending, granted the other person besides me was still a nub wammo.

Red Locust · Jul 26, 2006, 06:06 AM // 06:06

OK this is honestly a terrible solution to a non-existing problem (oh noes that whammo will live about 5 seconds longer before he gets smashed), in the wrong place.

Closed.